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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 21:19:27 GMT -6
I am buying a 2000 sea pro 190cc and would like to find out any and all specs about this boat. Can anyone tell me how to find info on it. I am having a very difficult (maybe impossible) time trying to contact manufacturer. Are they still in business? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 13, 2012 5:24:58 GMT -6
Great boat ... Sea Pro bought out by Brunswick and no longer producing boats, but Brunswick honoring warranty (yours has expired, but no problem - no wood since 1996). Many hulls now made under Trophy name by Brunswick. Original web-site info: RNR-Marine.com/SeaPro.shtml#SeaPro190ccThe 2000 Sea Pro 190 Center Console The Sea-Pro 190 Center Console is a 19-footer with invincible offshore stamina, efficient performance, and sea-smoothing hull dynamics. The perfect choice for the skipper who demands maximum reliability and economy in a fishing boat. Like all Sea-Pro boats the 190 Center Console is loaded with standard features you'd have to pay extra for on most other boats. Features like stainless hardware, welded stainless bow and grab rails, (4) stainless flush mount rod holders, self-bailing cockpit, courtesy lights, deluxe center console with lockable electronics box and lockable storage compartment, aerated live well, overboard draining storage and fish boxes and much more. Sea-Pro 190, a versatile boat for the pro or family fisherman. SPECIFICATIONS: Centerline Length 18'5" Beam 96" Approx. Wt. 1750 lbs. Fuel Capacity 56 gal. Max. HP 150 HP O/B Shaft Length 25" Deadrise 16 deg. STANDARD FEATURES: White Gelcoat Hand Laid Fiberglass Hull 7 Year Hull Warranty Foam Flotation Fiberglass Stringer System High Density Composite Transom Self-Bailing Cockpit Aerated Live Well Deluxe Center Console - - - - Tinted Plexiglass Windscreen - - - - Lockable Storage Compartment - - - - Lockable Built-in Electronics Box - - - - Deluxe Instrument Panel w/Fuel - - - - - Gauge, Light Switch, Bilge Switch, - - - - - (2) ACC Switches & Aerator Switch Running Lights Raised Casting Platform Storage Compartment Large Fish Box w/Overboard Drain All Welded Stainless Steel Bow Rail & Console Rail Stainless Hardware (4) Flush Mount Rod Holders (6) Vertical Rod Storage Holders Deluxe Helm & Companion Swivel Chairs w/Cushions Deluxe Non-Skid Deluxe Sea-Pro Rolled & Pleated Upholstery Battery/VRO Storage Compartment Automatic Bilge Pump Rubrail w/Insert Anchor Rope Storage Compartment No Feedback Steering Stainless Steel Steering Wheel Horn Cockpit Courtesy Lights Motorwell Bulkhead Aft Seats w/Cushions 94 Qt. Cooler w/Cushion OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT: Cockpit Bolsters Reversible Pilot Seat Bimini Top w/Boot Deluxe Washdown/Baitwell Bow Cushion Bow Casting Chair Bow Lifting Ring Bow Cushion Troll Motor Panel Recessed Rod Racks Striper Bow Rail Mooring Cover Hydraulic Steering Dual Steering T-Top Frame W/Canvas Top, Rocket Launchers & Electronics Box Compass 1/2 Swim Platform Wiring diagram: RNR-Marine.com/Sea-Pro/Sea-Pro-Wiring-Schematic_1997aug13.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 8:58:08 GMT -6
Thank You T-Topless. I have only one thing that makes me uncomfortable. I see on many newer boats "a bulkhead" in front of outboard engines. This boat does not have that feature. Many years ago my Uncle's boat without a bulkhead went down in rough following seas and he lost his life. I am thinking about building a wall (bulkhead) to keep out following seas. Is this a good idea or not necessary. I am a "safety freak" and do everything possible to protect anyone in my boat. Am I over re-acting?
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Post by Simple Man on Jul 13, 2012 9:50:37 GMT -6
.... Am I over re-acting? Yes. Any condition that would swamp that boat is not going to be stopped by any "bulkhead" that was added on. It's going to take physical damage, a loss of power or skipper error to swap that boat anyway. Use good judgement when and where you go boating, have all needed safety equipment and you will be fine. Just my 2 cents... Oh and welcome to the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 16:58:27 GMT -6
No Disrespect "Simple Man". But everything you mentioned can and does happen to boaters. "Physical damage, loss of power and skipper error". I don't think they changed the "style of the transom" just because it looks pretty. I have had boats for almost 50 years and have seen and unfortunately been in a few not so nice situations. I'm not trying to make the boat stronger with a "bulkhead" or "divider" in front of the OB engine, I'm just trying to prevent that "one in a million" bad situation from being a disaster. If you look at many of the early 1960, 1970 and 1980 outboard boats "many have installed a "bulkhead or divider" to stop a "nasty following sea".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 0:11:52 GMT -6
I think what simple man is tryin to say is, that a "bulkhead", placed the way you state, would be irrelevant in conditions severe enough to swamp a boat, especially one with a self bailing deck and an alert operator with his hand on the throttle, a "bulkhead" aint makin a difference. If you are looking for some added safety in following seas,maybe look into some trim tabs,
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 16, 2012 6:16:23 GMT -6
Printer,
My 180cc is heavy in the back with the 200HP Yamaha (on a jackplate as well) , 2 batteries, etc.
The 180cc is setup for a 20" shaft (your 290cc is setup for a 25" shaft) as well, so the transom cutout is very low.
I too was nervous, after taking a few waves in the back while anchored, so I built an extension, about 4" high, out of King Starboard and added it above the transom (notched down to 2-1/2" or so around the motor. It keeps a lot of water out (water still comes in the scuppers if 2 people are right at the rear fighting a fish at anchor). I'll get some pix and upload them.
Not sure it helps me in a following sea, but it sure keeps waves out when anchored to fish in rough seas.
I think the 190cc is probably fine, but this might be a suggestion if you get the boat and it takes on some water from the rear. The scuppers with flappers should drain water much like the walled rear section of the boats you mentioned.
One thing to consider - if you add a 2nd "wall", will it have drain holes to drain water if you take a wave over the bow?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 21:21:46 GMT -6
If I install a "wall" of course I would notch the bottom to allow drainage. Thanks t-topless your suggestion sounds like a good idea. I would appreciate some pictures.
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 19, 2012 9:29:31 GMT -6
Here are a couple of photos (a little blue - evening) showing the transom extension I added to my 2000 Sea Pro 180cc to keep waves out while fishing at anchor. I also tilt the motor up just a little to keep it drier (not a lot). 1/2" King Starboard ... used existing screw holes ... 1-1/4" stainless screws into hull with 3M 5200. Looks factory original. Heading out now to catch a few ...
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Post by BoutTime on Jul 19, 2012 12:30:29 GMT -6
.... Am I over re-acting? Yes. Any condition that would swamp that boat is not going to be stopped by any "bulkhead" that was added on. It's going to take physical damage, a loss of power or skipper error to swap that boat anyway. Use good judgement when and where you go boating, have all needed safety equipment and you will be fine. Just my 2 cents.... I second that.. I have a 2000 190 cc powered by a 115 Johnson ocean pro. I have been caught in some pretty nasty seas and have never had a problem. The scuppers do a fantastic job of draining water. I have even "backed-down" (which in itself isn't smart) on a fish and the water drains fast. IF "following seas" is a major fear factor ( & I can understand your concern from your past experiences) maybe you should consider a boat with a full transom and bracket - just saying...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 17:54:36 GMT -6
Thanks for the photos T-Topless. That exactly what I'll be doing. I am a big man also and so are my fishing buddies. I have always had larger boats 26 ft. or larger ALL inboards or IO's. Never had an outboard. BUT, I needed to downsize and am swapping my 26 for this boat. On the spec sheet you sent I noticed "Foam Flotation" (unsinkable?) and High density composite transom (got any idea what that is?)
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Post by RunninLate on Jul 20, 2012 19:53:42 GMT -6
Printer, I do not think that you will have a problem as long as you do not lose power. I have a 206 and we had a couple Cobia on and had to back down on the fish in 3 to 4 seas. Took a lot of water in the splash well and cockpit but as soon as we started moving forward the self bailing cockpit handled all the water. We must of had 20 to40 gallons of water in the boat.
Again, as long as you can have forward motion you should not have a problem. I know because I sunk an outboard 20 miles offshore because water came over the transom and shorted out the motor. The was no way to get the water to drain.
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 21, 2012 7:55:26 GMT -6
Thanks for the photos T-Topless. That exactly what I'll be doing ... On the spec sheet you sent I noticed "Foam Flotation" (unsinkable?) and High density composite transom (got any idea what that is?) Pretty easy add-on, and it does keep waves out when backing down (or with the extra transom weight in my case). We enjoyed having it at the Jetties Thursday - fishing anchored in steady 30mph winds with Pilot boats, sport fishers and container ships passing by throwing huge wakes. The Starboard is fun/easy to work with - just treat it like hardwood - cut/sand/drill. Its funny, because Whaler owners brag about "The Unsinkable Legend", but ALL boats in this size range have been required by the gov't. to be unsinkable since around 1995/96. The composite transom came into play around the same time - so there is no wood in any SeaPro since around 1995/96.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 20:04:14 GMT -6
THANKS T-TOPLESS. I feel much better knowing the boat will not sink. I still plan to install the transom board (like yours) as an additional safety feature. It sure beats spending hours of internet research when I can get the answers I need on this forum. I'll be a few weeks before I'm ready to fish. I have a couple of things to fix first. Fuel gauge not working. Engine is a 115 Johnson Oceanpro. When we took out for a sea trial (at the ramp) it started and stalled about 15 times, then it ran perfectly. I have a local mechanic I trust and am sure he will correct the problem. I'll do all the service and winterization necessary to keep it in good running condition. (already ordered service manual). I have to rewire trailer and change brake system from drum to disc. I'm retired and enjoy working on boats. Never used a mechanic before (never had an outboard either).
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 23, 2012 6:08:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 21:18:09 GMT -6
T-Topless: I noticed on the spec sheet you sent me "MOTORWELL BULKHEAD" was one of the features of this boat. I wonder if this boat is not a "2000" model. Am I missing something?
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 24, 2012 6:58:46 GMT -6
Interesting - not sure what that was. Sounds like what you proposed originally perhaps? Or what I made?
I like mine - when I'm anchored in 3-4' seas, I like having more than 4-6"of transom above the water.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 18:59:53 GMT -6
Got my boat today. It looks Great. I need to do a few things before I'll use it. (Starboard Job, fix gas guage, new wiring and lights on trailer) Replace T-Top canvass (anyone know where I can get a good buy)? I made an appointment with a friend and good outboard mechanic to have him go over everything and make sure there are no problems. He can't get to my boat till August 6th. Also thinking about "SMART TABS". Any comments? Also looking for "mechanics service manual" on 2000 Johnson 115 Oceanpro.
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Post by T-Topless on Jul 27, 2012 7:23:57 GMT -6
Congrats on the new boat! ... Replace T-Top canvass (anyone know where I can get a good buy)? ... Also thinking about "SMART TABS". Any comments? ... Also looking for "mechanics service manual" on 2000 Johnson 115 Oceanpro. 1) We sell the only factory original replacement T-Top canvas (plus spray-shields, gull-wings, gear-nets, console covers, mooring covers, etc.) for SeaPro, Sea Boss (and others), made using new Sunbrella (not new, old stock) using the original OEM factory patterns for an exact fit ... RNR-Marine.com/Canvas.shtml ($299, much cheaper than having a local canvas shop make them at $11-15 per sq ft + tax = $450-650). 2) Love the Smart Tabs - do a search here - there are 3 or 4 of us with them now. Had them for about 8 years. 3) Johnson/Evinrude Manuals: Free 2004+ Evinrude & Johnson Operator Guides: www.johnson.com/en-US/Engines/Showroom/Operators.Guide.htm Buy/Trade for various 1972-2008 Johnson & Evinrude Outboard Service Manuals: getpdfs.com/outboard.motors/johnson.evinrude/ readmanual.com/outboard.motors/johnson.evinrude/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 15:44:07 GMT -6
Thanks T-Topless. I'll be calling Monday morning to order my new top. The old top measures approx 50" wide and 76" long. It does measure about 50 and 1/2" across one end. Can I get it in "teal"? I think the t-top came with the boat when new. The water line stripe is Teal also. Please advise. Thanks again for all your help.
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