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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 3, 2015 9:33:31 GMT -6
Hey, guys. New to this forum as I just got my V2100 about a year ago. Its time to give it a little face lift. I'm planning on re-surfacing the inside of the boat, as well as repaint the outside. I already have the materials I'm planning on doing the project with, however I ran into a snag when trying to strip the hardware off the boat.
It seems the rails and cleats are mounted to the boat with nuts on the back side of the cap, and I can't take them off. Anyone have any experience with this?
Also, the fuel tank may need to be replaced and looking at the floor, there is a groove in the floor where the tank sits. If I have to cut it out, is this where I cut to extract the tank? Or would it be easier to remove the cap from the boat? Any help with either cutting into the floor or removing the cap would be great.
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Post by gnrphil on Mar 3, 2015 10:21:07 GMT -6
Welcome aboard
I have no experience doing this but I think I'd consider removing the cap if your going to do all that work.
Good luck and post pictures and updates, this will be very interesting and informative.
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 3, 2015 10:26:45 GMT -6
Thanks!
The only issue I have removing the cap is de-laminating the transom from the cap, and then finding a good, solid way to re-attach after all the work is done. Once I get a game plan going, I'll be sure to post pictures and what all I've done.
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 3, 2015 20:49:03 GMT -6
Definitely post up what you do, and welcome to the forum! There was a thread about 6 mos ago where a guy cut out a section of deck to replace the fuel tank. Do a search on "fuel tank" and you should find it. I would make sure It is your tank, and not a loose fuel sender, bad sender gasket or fuel fill/vent hose. They are likely candidates for fuel smell. As for the rails, yeah they have nuts on the bottom. You either have to drill out the heads and let the rest fall in the bilge, or pull the cap. If your fuel tank is indeed bad, pulling the cap might be your best bet. What year is your boat? Also, the model is an SV2100?
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 4, 2015 9:01:43 GMT -6
I will try to go back and look for the fuel tank thread. Thanks! On my tank, it is the fuel sending unit, however it seems it had been a problem for the past owner as well, and there has already been one bad "fix" to the situation. Called Moeller and they couldn't advise anything worthwhile. I've gone back with aviation grade fuel tank sealer, and roughing up the polyethylene tank, but I'm holding my breath on if it will stick or not.
The model I have is a V2100. If I remember correctly, they did not make the SV2100 until 2003. I'm not sure what changes were made though.
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BoatFixx
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Location: Port Townsend, Washington (Not D.C.)
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Post by BoatFixx on Mar 4, 2015 15:09:10 GMT -6
The only thing that worked for me on a poly tank was nitrile rubber sheet, cut properly to make a gasket.
No sort of goop has ever worked for me.
How is the cap presently attached to the stern? I assume the sides are riveted or screwed?
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 4, 2015 20:34:52 GMT -6
I sure wouldn't pull the tank if it's a sending unit. Looks like Boatfixx has had some success. I'd try that. And I'd try drilling out those rails and using one of Southern Cross' toggle bolts to put it back. Unless you have some wood rot/soft spot issues... I still don't know of a V2100, you mean a 210cc? SV2100's were made from 1998-2008.
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Post by Juan on Mar 5, 2015 7:07:01 GMT -6
I still don't know of a V2100, you mean a 210cc? SV2100's were made from 1998-2008. Surprise! Google V2100 vs SV2100  |
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Post by Simple Man on Mar 5, 2015 11:18:55 GMT -6
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 5, 2015 15:52:01 GMT -6
The sending unit was attached with the 5 screws that came standard on the tank. It had nut plates melted into the tank, where 3 of the 5 were stripped out to the point you could not re-tap. I currently have tried to make a larger plate, about 3.5 inches in diameter and have a screw about every 1/4 inch that screws directly into the tank. I used a rubber gasket and some Gulfstream Aerospace fuel tank sealer around everything. I'm hoping that will hold the fuel. I filled up the tank today, and I'm going to let it sit for a day or two and see if this does the trick. I'll post results in a few days.
Still debating on if I want to take the rails and cleats off to spray the truck bed liner in the boat. I'd like to take it all off, but I don't want to have the bolts I grind off rattling in the bottom of the boat.
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 5, 2015 16:48:16 GMT -6
I stand corrected on the v2100. Never heard of that one. If you are just spraying bedliner in there, I certainly wouldn't pull it. I'd just tape it up and go. But those bolts usually find their way to the drain plug...
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 6, 2015 7:22:46 GMT -6
I've thought of just taping up all the hardware and spraying the liner, however I wanted to be able to sand and clean the area around everything first, being that some of the rail mounts have a little rust at the bottom. Call it being OCD, but I've never done things the easy way! haha!
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Post by seagristle on Mar 11, 2015 9:26:20 GMT -6
And I'd try drilling out those rails and using one of Southern Cross' toggle bolts to put it back. Anybody got a link to these? |
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 12, 2015 6:40:52 GMT -6
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 13, 2015 8:27:47 GMT -6
I've used toggle bolts before, but just as your said, that is a little steep for a stainless toggle bolt! I'm thinking of drilling them out, then if I want to put the rails back on, I'll re-glass the holes and use a screw.
On another note... The fuel tank issue seems to be fixed. Super happy about that issue.
Now... as I've said I'd never take bottom paint off a boat again, I keep looking at mine and want it gone! I trailer my boat, and don't leave it in the water so no need. I know I'm not sanding it off. Done that on 3 boats and cussed my life each time. I'm looking into doing soda blasting to get the bulk off, then hand sanding smooth. I think it will end up making the boat look 10x better in the long run.
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 14, 2015 8:17:59 GMT -6
I'm no expert on bottom paint, but if you sand/soda blast it, won't you risk sanding past the gel coat? Is there some sort of solvent that can remove the paint without harming the gel coat below it?
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 14, 2015 14:48:57 GMT -6
From everything I've read, actually sand blasting will eat through the gel coat like acid. That is why I've been looking at soda blasting. Its suppose to be a lot less abrasive.
If anyone has any input on this, it would be great also! thanks
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Post by CaptWoody on Mar 15, 2015 6:19:16 GMT -6
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Post by flyingfishing on Mar 15, 2015 18:23:51 GMT -6
I've never seen this product before, and it surprises me because of how much research I've done previously on stripping bottom paint. My boat only stays in the water when I'm fishing on it, then it goes back on the trailer and into the boat shelter. I'll have to look at the gel coat underneath the bottom paint to see if it has any blisters before I start to consider any barrier coats. Thanks CaptWoody for the link!
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Post by flyingfishing on Apr 29, 2015 8:48:39 GMT -6
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