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Post by jskingry on Apr 26, 2016 9:51:50 GMT -6
Hello all,
I am in the process of trying to fix and decipher the livewells on my SV2100.
The boat has three livewells, one in the front of the console and two in the rear the center and port ones. I have found the switch for the rear port livewell and the pump works. The center one I have not been able to get working yet but will be breaking into the wiring to determine if it is wiring or pump that is the problem.
Currently both rear livewells fill automatically when the boat is running, and the tend to fill faster than the overflow drain will drain causing water to pour out in the motor well. Is there some way to adjust this with the Seacocks that will not impair the working of the pumps?
On to the front livewell now, what is that thing? Appears to drain into the bilge and looks like there is no method of filling it? I guess I could use a bucket to fill it and maybe wire in an aerator pump or something to make it a little more useful, or maybe just use it for dry storage.
Thanks
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Post by jskingry on Apr 26, 2016 12:30:47 GMT -6
Ok,
Been in the bilge so I have an update. Wiring is good going back to both pumps, just that pump for the rear center livewell is bad. I took the cartridge out and it is completely seized up and the motor has had water in it as it has corrosion crusties sprinkling out of it. It's sixteen years old so it's to be expected.
The old pump is a Bait Sentry 500, does anybody see an issue with upgrading it to an 800, it is on the larger livewell and here in Florida bait can die really fast. I have the entire old unit out and the seacock closed so looks like an easy replacement.
T
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Post by gnrphil on Apr 26, 2016 14:24:04 GMT -6
I would guess you'd be fine with an 800, some of the members with SV's will comment later I'm sure. And I believe somebody has plumbed that front well before so you might get some pointers on how to do that.
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Post by Juan on Apr 26, 2016 14:54:02 GMT -6
I think Southern Cross has an 04 with an 03 interior and I believe it's the same design as the 2000. Hopefully he'll chime in. Mine came with the front livewell plumbed with a Rule 700. The rear two livewells also have a Rule 700 and they supply plenty of water to keep the bait alive so the 800 should do great. I never use the rear small livewell so I've got it wired to a wash down hose but it doesn't have a lot of pressure when washing the deck where an 800 gph pump just might.
Good luck.
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tigerhead
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Sea Pro model and year: SV2100CC 2000
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Post by tigerhead on Apr 27, 2016 10:56:16 GMT -6
I have the 2000 model, but mine is set up with a livewell in front of the console and in the center of the rear deck. My port compartment is dry storage. Both of my wells are supplied by one Bait Sentry pump. I'm not sure what size it is. One thing to consider, my Bait Sentry pump is magnetic drive. That's so you can pinch down or shut off the fill valves in the livewells without damaging the pump motor by deadheading the pump. I think it's also to keep the pump from over revving the motor when you are running wide open with the seacock open. Bear in mind that the forced intake is different from a static intake. At 40 mph you are creating a significant amount of flow in the system.
That should also answer your question about the livewells filling faster than the overflow can handle the water. If you look where the water comes out of the fill line in the well, you should be able to turn the end of the spray head. That's actually a combination spray head/valve. Play with it a little and you should be able to set it where you can maintain a balance between the water coming in and the water going out.
I'm curious, where is your second pump getting suction? Do you have two intakes or does it tee off of the Bait Sentry base?
PS Look really close at your console well. The fill line on mine is high up the side and kind of hard to see. If the spray head is shut off you won't see it without sticking your head in there. The drain is hosed through the bilge to one of the drains on the side of the boat. Hope this helps.
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Post by jskingry on Apr 28, 2016 9:51:28 GMT -6
Tigerhead, I do have a second seacock and pump running that port rear livewell. My center rear livewell is the one with the dead pump so we will see if that fills the front one too, I will check for a valve. I would really like three working livewells so we will see.
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Post by jskingry on Apr 28, 2016 10:19:40 GMT -6
Ok, so it looks like that front one is plumped in combination with the rear as you guys mentioned, I found the fill valve and it is wet as if it had water in it from running this weekend. So that is good I am upgrading to an 800gpm pump to fill those two wells and there is a 500gpm original still running that port rear livewell. I will play with the valve to try and tune the flow rate when running, that should address my last concern.
Thanks for the help everyone, it was nice to get some expert feedback on things that would have taken me forever to learn.
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Post by jskingry on Apr 28, 2016 13:49:13 GMT -6
Ok one last update, I found one of the valves to control the flow of water into the baitwell, unfortunately I need three of them. Anyone know if this is a standard part that can be purchased at West Marine or somewhere oneline?  |
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Post by Juan on Apr 28, 2016 13:56:12 GMT -6
Ok one last update, I found one of the valves to control the flow of water into the baitwell, unfortunately I need three of them. Anyone know if this is a standard part that can be purchased at West Marine or somewhere oneline? You might be able to use a standard garden hose valve. I know I can on mine. I used one with a double discharge so I could hook up a wash down hose with one end and fill the live well with the other.  |
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Post by jskingry on Apr 28, 2016 14:48:44 GMT -6
Alright everybody has been so helpful. I found the other two valves inserts in a bag of stuff so I am set with my three livewells now!
Thanks everybody.
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Post by gnrphil on Apr 28, 2016 15:20:48 GMT -6
Enthusiasts might be a good word
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Post by gnrphil on Apr 28, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -6
Enthusiasts is a good word, though I am never enthused about working in the bilge. LOL me neither |
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Post by Juan on Apr 29, 2016 4:35:43 GMT -6
I need to add the word "employed" to the forum filter  |
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Post by neauxla on May 18, 2016 14:59:16 GMT -6
I'm trying to add a lil more dry storage (doesn't exist on my 2003 SV2100 CC) and I never use my front livewell or rear port livewell. What do I need to do to them so water stops getting in there? My rear livewell fills up every time I run even when the pump isn't on.
Also, has anyone tried to seal off the starboard hatch on the bow from the main bow compartment? I main bow compartment always gets wet, which then gets the starboard compartment wet.
Lastly, inside the console is always getting wet. Suggestions?
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Post by gnrphil on May 18, 2016 15:54:02 GMT -6
Suggestion for the livewell would be to remove the fill hose, if your seacock is open water will fill the well when running (you could just turn the nozzle off but it'll probably still drip.) as for the console I'd get in there if you can (or find a midget, sorry small person) and spray water all over until the you or small person can see the leak, most likely the door or vent.
Can't help with the hatches.
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Post by Juan on May 19, 2016 6:12:05 GMT -6
Suggestion for the livewell would be to remove the fill hose, Wouldn't doing that cause the water fill the bilge? I think the hatches are located differently on my 04 but I don't use my port livewell or the one forward of the console either. I use the starboard port live well as a garbage can and I wanted to use the console livewell as storage but I haven't found a way to keep either compartment completely dry. I've capped off the water inlet in both compartments by turning the shut-off valve inside the livewell off then capped each with a garden hose end cap. No water enters from the boat's plumbing but both livewells still get wet from rain or when washing the boat. I don't think there's a way to keep all the water completely out without some kind of weather seal. As for the console leaking, I would check or reseal it's connection to the deck, if it's cracked, 3M 5200 adhesive will seal it for years. also check the rod holders on each side of the console... they should have a hose connected to the drain holes in the bottom. If that hose is broken or not there, they will drain inside the console instead of into the bilge. If you have any electronics, compass, ect, mounted on top of the console, check the mounting to be sure it's not leaking... |
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Post by gnrphil on May 19, 2016 8:14:53 GMT -6
Suggestion for the livewell would be to remove the fill hose, Wouldn't doing that cause the water fill the bilge? Well yes, but I assumed it to be obvious to completely remove it from the system so that wouldn't happen.  |
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Post by neauxla on May 19, 2016 8:19:53 GMT -6
Suggestion for the livewell would be to remove the fill hose, Wouldn't doing that cause the water fill the bilge? I think the hatches are located differently on my 04 but I don't use my port livewell or the one forward of the console either. I use the starboard port live well as a garbage can and I wanted to use the console livewell as storage but I haven't found a way to keep either compartment completely dry. I've capped off the water inlet in both compartments by turning the shut-off valve inside the livewell off then capped each with a garden hose end cap. No water enters from the boat's plumbing but both livewells still get wet from rain or when washing the boat. I don't think there's a way to keep all the water completely out without some kind of weather seal. As for the console leaking, I would check or reseal it's connection to the deck, if it's cracked, 3M 5200 adhesive will seal it for years. also check the rod holders on each side of the console... they should have a hose connected to the drain holes in the bottom. If that hose is broken or not there, they will drain inside the console instead of into the bilge. If you have any electronics, compass, ect, mounted on top of the console, check the mounting to be sure it's not leaking... Do you have any pics of where these shutoff valves are and these garden hose caps? I know you have newer model than my 2003 but they should be similar. Speaking of weather stripping, has anyone done anything like that? |
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Post by Juan on May 19, 2016 9:41:57 GMT -6
If your livewells are like mine, there should be a little valve on the inlet where the water enters the livewell. You should be able to turn the valve to increase the amount of water that enter your livewell. Turn that valve one way or the other and the water quits flowing in.. if there's not a valve or it doesn't work, the inlet is the same size and has the same threads on the end as a garden hose... just put a cap on it and then nothing enters the livewell.  |
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