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Post by Juan on Oct 2, 2019 15:55:57 GMT -6
I hate the FWC. They seem to make rules based on poor and inaccurate data and don't listen to the recreational fishermen.  There's going to be a lot more filet and releases.  New Spotted Sea Trout rules for Florida: effective immediately content.govdelivery.com/accounts/FLFFWCC/bulletins/263827f EDIT: Just reread the bulletin and I believe the new rules are still in draft form awaiting final approval but with FWC's support, it will probably happen soon. |
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Post by freezerfiller on Oct 6, 2019 17:27:41 GMT -6
Well, at least they did bend a little to public opinion. It could have been worse. I have no problem with tightening the rules for everyone, but allowing commercial fishermen to catch all the 19+" fish while recreational fishermen were "hurting the breeders" was pure nonsense. If everyone has to adhere to the same rules then it should improve the fishery and hopefully they will relax the regs in the future.
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Post by Juan on Oct 7, 2019 5:46:05 GMT -6
Well, at least they did bend a little to public opinion. It could have been worse. I have no problem with tightening the rules for everyone, but allowing commercial fishermen to catch all the 19+" fish while recreational fishermen were "hurting the breeders" was pure nonsense. If everyone has to adhere to the same rules then it should improve the fishery and hopefully they will relax the regs in the future. I agree! BUT if I read the proposed rules right, it says " Modifying the recreational slot size limit from 15-to-20 inches to 15-to-19 inches total length." It doesn't mention the same requirement for commercial. I don't oppose a closure. I think the majority of folks in the Big Bend and Panhandle area support the closure... But I'm not sure I agree with closures in some areas and not in others. The biggest thing that pissed me off is the reduction in bag limits in the Western Panhandle from 5 to 3 fish. The reduction in other areas may be justified but the trout population in the Western Panhandle is thriving. If anything they should have increased the bag limit!  I'll say t again.... they base their changes on inaccurate data gathered from surveys done by non-fishermen and college students at boat ramps. 013  Oh well... they're gonna do what they want so just got to live with it since they won't listen |
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Post by 985crabs on Oct 7, 2019 8:52:44 GMT -6
Bunch of dummies. I hope those panhandle fish get so overcrowded they have to move to LA (Louisiana for those of you who might have confused it for Lower Alabama).
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Post by freezerfiller on Oct 7, 2019 14:50:51 GMT -6
Well, at least they did bend a little to public opinion. It could have been worse. I have no problem with tightening the rules for everyone, but allowing commercial fishermen to catch all the 19+" fish while recreational fishermen were "hurting the breeders" was pure nonsense. If everyone has to adhere to the same rules then it should improve the fishery and hopefully they will relax the regs in the future. I agree! BUT if I read the proposed rules right, it says " Modifying the recreational slot size limit from 15-to-20 inches to 15-to-19 inches total length." It doesn't mention the same requirement for commercial. Oh well... they're gonna do what they want so just got to live with it since they won't listen Wow, you are right. The last draft I had seen did have commercial slot the same 15-19" but now I see they have scratched it. You can see the process here. myfwc.com/media/21700/4b-presentation-seatrout.pdf I don't understand how rec fishermen supposedly hurt the breeding when the breeders just get caught by the commercial guys. Makes me mad as when I see all those 13" red snapper in the seafood store. There is a place to comment and I'll be sure to give them my opinion. |
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Post by Juan on Oct 11, 2019 5:04:43 GMT -6
Yesterday's catch: 4 Spanish mackerel, 2 rat reds, 42" gar and 100 trout. (only kept 2) Really justifies dropping the creel limit form 5 to 3! |
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Post by 985crabs on Oct 11, 2019 6:45:30 GMT -6
Yesterday's catch: 4 Spanish mackerel, 2 rat reds, 42" gar and 100 trout. (only kept 2) Really justifies dropping the creel limit form 5 to 3! You want some cheese with that whine? Maybe this should be in the 'B!tch' section. Wow, you (and crew?) caught 100 trout? That's awesome. I don't even know what 100 trout looks like anymore. Sounds like a great day. |
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Post by Juan on Oct 11, 2019 13:57:31 GMT -6
Yesterday's catch: 4 Spanish mackerel, 2 rat reds, 42" gar and 100 trout. (only kept 2) Really justifies dropping the creel limit form 5 to 3! You want some cheese with that whine? Maybe this should be in the 'B!tch' section. Wow, you (and crew?) caught 100 trout? That's awesome. I don't even know what 100 trout looks like anymore. Sounds like a great day. Hey, you'd bitch too if you could only keep 3 trout.  |
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Post by mosquito13 on Oct 11, 2019 19:27:05 GMT -6
Of the 100 how many were 18" or above/breeding stock?
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Post by Juan on Oct 12, 2019 5:42:23 GMT -6
Of the 100 how many were 18" or above/breeding stock? None. Kept 2 16" fish. Most of the 100 were between 12"-15" and will be breeding next year if flipper doesn't get em before then. |
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Post by Juan on Dec 13, 2019 17:57:37 GMT -6
Well, as expected, they did it... Closed season in February and reduced the bag limit from 5 to 3 fish for the western panhandle. These rules suck! For immediate release: Dec. 12, 2019 Suggested Tweet: Spotted #seatrout rule changes approved by @myfwc: content.govdelivery.com/account ... ns/271263f #Florida #Fishing #FWC2019 FWC approves changes to spotted seatrout rules At its meeting in Panama City Beach, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) approved several rule changes for spotted seatrout. Spotted seatrout are one of Florida’s most popular inshore fisheries. Based on the results of a recent stock assessment and after hearing concerns from anglers, FWC worked with stakeholders to create a suite of regulatory changes that would benefit the spotted seatrout as well as continue to provide quality fishing opportunities. The following rules will go into effect Feb. 1, 2020: Creating two new zones by splitting the Northwest spotted seatrout management zone into the: (See maps below.) Western Panhandle (Escambia County through the portions of Gulf County west of longitude 85 degrees, 13.76 minutes but NOT including Indian Pass/Indian Lagoon). Big Bend (remaining portion of Gulf County plus Indian Lagoon, and Franklin County through Fred Howard Park Causeway in Pinellas County). Creating the renamed South Florida zone (Fred Howard Park Causeway in Pinellas County near the Pasco County line through Broward County) and Central East zone (Palm Beach through Volusia counties) by moving the boundary between the southern management zones. (See maps below.) Reducing bag limits Western Panhandle: five to three fish. Big Bend: no change (remains five fish). South Florida: four to three fish. Central East: four to two fish. Northeast: six to five fish. Modifying the recreational slot size limit from 15-to-20 inches to 15-to-19 inches total length. Allowing one seatrout over 19 inches per vessel (currently per harvester). Prohibiting captain and crew from keeping a bag limit on a for-hire trip. Re-establishing the February recreational closure in the Western Panhandle zone and the November-December recreational closure in the Central East zone. Reducing the current daily commercial limits to 50 per harvester and 100 per vessel. Removing an unnecessary commercial reporting form. Learn more about spotted seatrout by visiting MyFWC.com/Marine and clicking on “Recreational Regulations” and “Spotted Seatrout.” -30-  |
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Post by 985crabs on Dec 15, 2019 20:44:41 GMT -6
That sucks. Wow, now I can’t retire in FL. WTF?
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Post by troutslayer on Dec 16, 2019 17:34:28 GMT -6
Troutslayer here, I got my nickname in the western panhandle fishing chochtowatchee bay and the destin area. just 6 or 7 years ago, you could wear the trout out all over the bay and destin harbor. There are so many inshore guides there now that take 4 people out and kill 20 trout. most of these people are staying somewhere they can't cook, and one meal cooked at a local restaurant with said fish is all that happens except for all the photo opps. I wish they would close it for a couple years, but I guess dropping limit will help! I don't even fish for trout there anymore because they have been so hard to find, even in some of the best grassy areas of the past, overfished in my opinion.  |
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Post by Juan on Dec 17, 2019 12:30:56 GMT -6
Troutslayer here, I got my nickname in the western panhandle fishing chochtowatchee bay and the destin area. just 6 or 7 years ago, you could wear the trout out all over the bay and destin harbor. There are so many inshore guides there now that take 4 people out and kill 20 trout. most of these people are staying somewhere they can't cook, and one meal cooked at a local restaurant with said fish is all that happens except for all the photo opps. I wish they would close it for a couple years, but I guess dropping limit will help! I don't even fish for trout there anymore because they have been so hard to find, even in some of the best grassy areas of the past, overfished in my opinion. I have to agree with you in part. The few times I fished Destin and Choctawhatchee Bay this past year, I couldn't find em either....reduce the bag limit and close the season there BUT there are no shortage of trout east of Destin to Apalachicola imo. So why reduce the bag limit and close the season for a month in areas where they are abundant? I've almost always been able to find and catch a limit (but I seldom keep them) and I'm no guide or expert trout fisherman so if I can do it, anyone can. They are that plentiful! The data they used to devise these rules is flawed. It's only going to cause people like me to fish the Big Bend area more often and that might cause a reduction in the fish in that area... and it's probably going to piss off the locals too. Then there's the non law abiding meat fishermen who will filet and release.  |
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Post by freezerfiller on Dec 17, 2019 14:15:57 GMT -6
At least the big bend is still 5.
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Post by Juan on Dec 17, 2019 15:17:34 GMT -6
At least the big bend is still 5. and luckily for me, it's only a few more miles.  |
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Post by Simple Man on Dec 23, 2019 0:08:33 GMT -6
Troutslayer is spot on. There is a tremendous amount of guides out there these days even over here where I am at. They are out there every decent weather day catching and keeping limits. Not just trout but all species of fish in and near shore. The pressure on the resource is unbelievable compared to what is was even a few years back.
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