alan67
Sailor
Posts: 5
Location: Hudson, Fl
Sea Pro model and year: 2019 219 Deep V
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Post by alan67 on Sept 28, 2020 16:34:51 GMT -6
Has anyone had a hooked haul and if so how was Sea Pro to deal with? Thanks.
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Post by Juan on Sept 29, 2020 5:04:44 GMT -6
First time I've heard this one. I thought a hooked hull only happened on heavy old wooden boats that didn't have the rollers or bunks on the trailer set properly. Good luck dealing with Sea Pro but it would be my guess the only fix would be a new hull.
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catchersrock
Ensign
Posts: 548
Location: Maiden NC
Sea Pro model and year: 2020 Sea Pro 228
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Post by catchersrock on Sept 29, 2020 5:27:54 GMT -6
Some boats have a hook intentionally. Kinda like a built in trim tab to fight porpoising. Im still waiting on Sea Pro to put a hook in mine after the fact to stop the porpoising in my boat.
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985crabs
Captain
2000 V1900 Bay Series, Yamaha 150 Carb. 2
Posts: 1,309
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Post by 985crabs on Sept 29, 2020 7:02:55 GMT -6
New nautical term for me.
So, how's this work? Does the center line actually curve to the left like every shot I hit on the golf course?
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Post by Juan on Sept 29, 2020 7:08:05 GMT -6
New nautical term for me. So, how's this work? Does the center line actually curve to the left like every shot I hit on the golf course? Dat's funny. You're a Joe Biden golfer. Some boats have a hook intentionally. Kinda like a built in trim tab to fight porpoising. Im still waiting on Sea Pro to put a hook in mine after the fact to stop the porpoising in my boat. Catcher, trim tabs don't help with the porpoising? Enlighten me on after the fact hooks. I thought a hooked hull was a defect, didn't know adding a hook after the fact was even possible. Won't a hook slow the boat down? How do they install a hook? Shave off fiberglass until there's a bow in the hull? (Seems that would make the glass thin in spots.) Maybe heat up the hull until it's pliable and sit the boat on something that forms an indention? (but I would think heat would weaken the glass) How do they even know how much of a hook to put in a hull? Seems too much hook would have an adverse effect.
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catchersrock
Ensign
Posts: 548
Location: Maiden NC
Sea Pro model and year: 2020 Sea Pro 228
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Post by catchersrock on Sept 29, 2020 9:38:55 GMT -6
So, a hook is a VERY slight upward curve in the hull over the last foot or so of the bottom of the boat just before the rear edge. A lot of boats are actually made this way. If you get under your boat with a 4 foot strait edge or level and put it against the bottom of your hull, you will see it. The hook sets the running attitude of the boat while on plane. According to Sea Pro, my hook is slightly not enough (hundredths of an inch).
My boat currently requires the use of tabs to stop porpoising while on plane and trimmed above around 2 to 3 degrees. It shouldn't require tabs just to drive normally. Tabs are for rough water or correcting listing. The new 228 is rated for 250 HP, which is what I have. If you get a 225 or smaller, they dont porpoise near as bad. The added weight of the bigger motor needs a little more hook to push the front back over, or trim tab for the same purpose. Sea Pro is going to add a few hundredths of fiberglass to the rear of the hook, build it down a little, some day. Ive been waiting for over a year!
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Post by Juan on Sept 29, 2020 10:05:31 GMT -6
Sounds like what's called the "pad" on bass boats. Thanks. Learned sumthin new. Edit: I checked mine this afternoon and there's no hook. The bottom is as flat as a pancake.
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Post by gnrphil on Sept 29, 2020 15:57:52 GMT -6
I've heard some stories about some boats having a "hook" on one side of the hull, something to do with a problem during manufacture. How Sea Pro are dealing with I don't know, or if it's true.
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alan67
Sailor
Posts: 5
Location: Hudson, Fl
Sea Pro model and year: 2019 219 Deep V
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Post by alan67 on Sept 30, 2020 18:30:42 GMT -6
So I have the hook on one side toward the stern. It doesn't porpoise just leans. The dealer installed a motor extension and a 4 blade prop hoping that would solve the problem, but it made no difference. The dealer said they are working on it but I haven't heard crap. I emailed Sea Pro a few days ago and haven't heard from them.
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alan67
Sailor
Posts: 5
Location: Hudson, Fl
Sea Pro model and year: 2019 219 Deep V
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Post by alan67 on Oct 2, 2020 6:50:18 GMT -6
The weird thing is I thought these boats were made from molds. I would have thought Sea Pro is getting overwhelmed with complaints. I really like the boat just wish it didn't have the hook. Still haven't heard from them.
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Post by Juan on Oct 2, 2020 8:33:12 GMT -6
Still haven't heard from them. and you probably won't. I'd call them: Phone: (803) 694-2644
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 2, 2020 18:25:54 GMT -6
The weird thing is I thought these boats were made from molds. I would have thought Sea Pro is getting overwhelmed with complaints. I really like the boat just wish it didn't have the hook. Still haven't heard from them. From what I heard it has something to do with when the floatation foam was injected between the hull and the cap, somehow as it cured it pulled the hull inwards. Don't understand how but that's what I read, how true it is I don't know so don't quote me on that.
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Post by Dominic on Nov 16, 2020 9:06:05 GMT -6
Are you talking about the port list on plane? There is a ton of info on this, one the nextwave facebook page. Has a lot to do with the torque from the prop turning right handed. I have been in Cobia's that do this as well with both Yamaha's and Suzuki's. Personally I think it has a lot to do with the bigger props these motor have to run to create the power needed. The older two strokes did not need these bigger props and it was less of an issue. Then again all my older boat had the helm on the starboard side and probably balanced the boat out better. Even the center console boat still put helm more on starboard side. I don't know why the newer boats put the helm on the port side. Let us know what they say.
Dom
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