985crabs
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2000 V1900 Bay Series, Yamaha 150 Carb. 2
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Post by 985crabs on Dec 3, 2020 9:09:44 GMT -6
This is what it looks like when the weld holding the spindle into the end of the axle breaks. Lucky I'm not stuck on the highway somewhere.  |
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Post by Juan on Dec 3, 2020 11:55:07 GMT -6
Ouch. That'll wear out a tire in a hurry! It's times like that I'm glad I have tandem axles.
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Post by gnrphil on Dec 3, 2020 15:49:54 GMT -6
Had that happen with the old boat towing home one night, wondered what all the sparks were from so started to slow down, then the whole wheel assembly came rolling past. Ahh that's it. LOL.
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Post by 985crabs on Dec 8, 2020 9:29:36 GMT -6
Wondered what all the sparks were from so started to slow down, then the whole wheel assembly came rolling past. Ahh that's it. LOL. That's a story that's funny to tell now. I bet it wasn't funny then. We replaced the axle, springs and hubs using Tie Down Vortex Hubs. They're supposedly warranted for 6 years and/or 100,000 miles while claiming to be virtually no-maintenance. Anybody else use these? I drove them 100 miles back to my house and there seemed to be a lot of grease that pushed through the rear seal and splattered all over the inside of the wheel. Any ideas?   |
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Post by Juan on Dec 8, 2020 18:27:22 GMT -6
I drove them 100 miles back to my house and there seemed to be a lot of grease that pushed through the rear seal and splattered all over the inside of the wheel. Any ideas? When mine did that, the rear seals were bad. After changing the bearings and seals there's been no more greasy wheels. That said, if the rear grease seals are new and seated properly, they shouldn't be throwing any grease on the wheels but grease expands with heat, so it's possible to put too much grease in the bearings and as the grease gets hot it will find a way out. I've blown a couple of buddy bearings off the axles because I got carried away with the grease gun.  |
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Post by 985crabs on Dec 8, 2020 20:18:12 GMT -6
[/quote]If the rear grease seals are new and seated properly, they shouldn't be throwing any grease on the wheels but grease expands with heat, so it's possible to put too much grease in the bearings and as the grease gets hot it will find a way out. I've blown a couple of buddy bearings off the axles because I got carried away with the grease gun. [/quote] Wow, didn’t know you could blow a Bearing Buddy off a hub. How does one know if the seals are seated properly? These hubs came pre-greased and assembled. I may have added a tablespoon of grease to the fronts of the hubs, but there was ample extra room in the caps. Don’t think I precipitated a pressure blowout. |
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Post by Juan on Dec 9, 2020 6:36:22 GMT -6
All the rear seals I've dealt with have been pressed into the hub assembly so they fit tight against the hub and can't come out or leak unless damaged. The inside of the seal has a metal spring inside a rubber gasket that fits tight against the axle's spindle to keep the grease inside the hub. The seal might not be pressed into the hub properly, it's possible the seal was loosened or damaged when the hub was installed on the spindle and it's possible the seal was old and the rubber portion dry rotted but I doubt that's it. I'd clean all the grease off then drive it around the block and look to see where the grease is coming from. If it's from between the seal and the hub, the seal isn't pressed into the hub correctly or one or the other is bad. Wow, didn’t know you could blow a Bearing Buddy off a hub. Normally, you can't unless they aren't a real tight fit. |
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Post by 985crabs on Dec 9, 2020 7:55:13 GMT -6
Normally, you can't unless they aren't a real tight fit.
I was going to say, I had to beat the hell out of mine with a mallet to get them off.
So, does the seal end up fixed in the hub and rotate around the spindle? Conversely, does it rotate in the hub while being fixed on the spindle?
What if there was some galvanizing overspray from when they coated the brake flange on the seal seat of the spindle? Would that be enough to cause a leak? How would one remove the overspray without damaging the finely-machined spindle?
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Post by gnrphil on Dec 9, 2020 9:50:01 GMT -6
The seal is seated in the hub and rotates around the spindle, I guess the overspray could vary well have torn up the seals as they require a smooth surface to run on.
You could try to clean up the over spray with scotch bright or some vary fine sand paper, seals are probably shot though.
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