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Post by Juan on Mar 16, 2018 17:20:33 GMT -6
But I can break an anvil!     I don't think they sell the replacement parts I need without buying a whole new Power Pole, so I hope I can remove the hydraulic cylinder and knock out the dent in the inner casing. I think the bottom of the outer casing is going to need to be welded but it looks like it's made of cast metal... Can cast be welded? Someone needs to invent something that keeps the main engine from starting when a power pole is deployed. |
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Post by Simple Man on Mar 17, 2018 11:21:57 GMT -6
Ouch! That hurts. I think they have something already that will alarm if you crank up with it deployed. Might be the talon that comes with that feature?
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Post by bbbb on Mar 17, 2018 11:28:29 GMT -6
Contact power pole. They usually send replacement parts for free.   |
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Post by Juan on Mar 17, 2018 17:32:01 GMT -6
Yeah, I know Minn Kota has an alarm for the Talons that will go off if the Talon is deployed. If Power Pole has one, I haven't heard about it but I need one! I've taken off with the power pole deployed a lot of times in the past without any damage but this time it must have hit something. It's the first time it was damaged. I dismantled it this morning and got the dent banged out of the outer casing, now I either have to buy a new inner casing or find someone who can weld the bolt holes back into it.
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Post by Juan on Mar 19, 2018 12:54:14 GMT -6
Well the nice folks at Power Pole had the casings I need and are sending me both of them at 50% off and then throwing in a rebuild kit for free. Now I just need to figure out how to fix the big motor where it won't start when the power pole is deployed.  |
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Post by captduck on Mar 19, 2018 18:42:59 GMT -6
There has to be a way to kill power to your ignition switch while deployed. Like a relay or toggle switch somewhere in the wiring. Guess nobody has designed it yet!!!
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Post by Juan on Mar 20, 2018 5:35:08 GMT -6
I think send them an email and ask. I know Minn Kota has an alarm for their Talons that can be hooked up to the engine's ignition and alarms if you try to start the motor with the talon deployed. Talons need an alarm since they deploy straight down and can be damaged easier than a Power Pole but surely I'm not the first one to damage a Power Pole by taking off with it deployed.
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Post by mosquito13 on Mar 20, 2018 6:26:05 GMT -6
THAT SUCKS !!! Start fresh with a 16' talon. Will work with your trolling motor and if you have a helix or later model sounder they all connect. I would contact a local service center and see if they have a bone yard of old pole parts.
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Post by mosquito13 on Mar 20, 2018 6:29:09 GMT -6
Put a relay tripped by the on power of the Power Pole, that when on, cuts the power to your engines starter relay. Just need to get the relay that when energized it is open. This works on Talons at least as there is a slight draw when they are engaged . The alarm is great , but I needed idiot proof as no one knows me better then myself...$80 bracket lesson. Jaun if you need a visual I can sketch up a diagram , but pretty simple set up. The guys at the Minn Kota service center drew me up a schematic (two 12' Talons) With this set up the engine WILL NOT start when deployed.
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Post by Simple Man on Mar 20, 2018 12:10:35 GMT -6
And get that flag up off the ground or we are going to deport you back to Fla!  |
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Post by Juan on Mar 20, 2018 14:23:39 GMT -6
Put a relay tripped by the on power of the Power Pole, that when on, cuts the power to your engines starter relay. Just need to get the relay that when energized it is open. This works on Talons at least as there is a slight draw when they are engaged . The alarm is great , but I needed idiot proof as no one knows me better then myself...$80 bracket lesson. Jaun if you need a visual I can sketch up a diagram , but pretty simple set up. The guys at the Minn Kota service center drew me up a schematic and sold me the relays(two 12' Talons) I needed at the same time I purchased the new bracket. With this set up the engine WILL NOT start when deployed. Thanks skeeter, Does your relay work with the remote or a manual switch and do you happen to know the brand or part number? I'm guessing the same relay should work with a Power Pole if they're both 12vdc. Simple Man, That flag is in bad shape and headed for a proper burning ceremony once the new Power Pole parts get here. Don't tell our granny governor.  |
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Post by Juan on Mar 21, 2018 4:32:19 GMT -6
I sent an email to Power Pole and got an answer last night.. Seems they don't have any sort of alarm or system that prevents you from taking off with the Power Pole deployed. They claim it's not really needed since there's a relief valve in the pump that is designed to relieve pressure on the system during drive offs. Personally, I think they need something better.
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Post by captduck on Mar 21, 2018 6:23:27 GMT -6
I personally don't have a Power Pole on my boat. But I agree with Juan on his last comment. It is apparent that the relief valve designed to relieve pressure didn't work as the engineer thought. And that there has to be something better out there designed to dis-engage engine starting capabilities when deployed. Here is a chance for someone to design it and start making a few extra dollars!!!!!
It is a good gesture on their part to offer you the parts you need at 50% off. But why not send them to you free of charge if their system didn't work the way they designed it to work!
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Post by mosquito13 on Mar 21, 2018 7:34:26 GMT -6
Look for a "normally open " relay. The ones that control the fans on cars radiators are closed when energized. Put pig tails on the relay and encase them in some fiberglass resign to make them bilge proof. Sure someone sells waterproof ones, You need to have a schematic of the Power Pole and tap in to the active circuit to energize the relay. Figure it out and sell 'em on ebay. I thought about doing that for Talon's, til I remembered I was retired.
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Post by Juan on Mar 21, 2018 13:48:38 GMT -6
I'm retired too and building a relay that works sounds too complicated for me to tackle.. I guess I'll just try to remember when it's deployed but the older I get, the harder it is too remember crap. 021
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 26, 2018 15:59:45 GMT -6
Any updates on the situation?
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Post by Juan on Mar 26, 2018 16:57:32 GMT -6
Any updates on the situation? Nothing to add as far as inventing some sort of alarm but I did receive and install two new casings and a complete rebuilt kit. It now looks and Works like new again and hopefully will stay that way at least until I blast off with it still stuck in the bottom again.  |
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Post by freezerfiller on Mar 26, 2018 18:28:26 GMT -6
receive as in "free"? or as in "I bought two new casings and a rebuild kit"...
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Post by Juan on Mar 27, 2018 4:35:07 GMT -6
receive as in "free"? or as in "I bought two new casings and a rebuild kit"... They "gave" me the two casings at 50% off and threw in the rebuild kit for free... (Total out of pocket = $240.) |
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Post by 985crabs on Mar 27, 2018 7:09:36 GMT -6
I'm retired too and building a relay that works sounds too complicated for me to tackle.. I guess I'll just try to remember when it's deployed but the older I get, the harder it is too remember crap. 021 I don't know. I've been following this and it seems like a real problem. Mosquito's solution is quite elegant. Maybe you should try it. I'm still using the 'Voice Activated Power Poles' so this isn't a problem for me, but if I had one I'm sure it would be. It's an easy mistake to make and I've watched guides do it. It's especially prevalent when rectal/cranial inversion is present. Aiyeeeeee! |
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