oldfatguy
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Post by oldfatguy on Jan 31, 2019 10:08:42 GMT -6
I have a 2003 220 CC and need to add a kicker motor. does anyone know how much trouble it is getting to the inside if the transom to put backer nuts on the mounting bolts ? it's winter now and was 13 below zero this morning ( Michigan ) I want to do some planning but don't think I could stand to work outside today
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Post by gnrphil on Jan 31, 2019 15:20:01 GMT -6
Welcome aboard oldfatguy, mine had a kicker mount when I got her so it's doable. When I had some repairs done I had the guy remove the mount bracket, he said it was tough getting to the nuts so he ground the bolt heads off.
You should have an inspection plate in the splash well on the sides where the livewell's are. I'd take a guess you might want to wait for warmer weather.
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oldfatguy
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Post by oldfatguy on Feb 1, 2019 6:22:09 GMT -6
And on top of the cold I am getting old, finally getting stiff. I might do better hiring someone younger to do it. Thanks for the help.
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Post by gnrphil on Feb 1, 2019 7:16:13 GMT -6
Here's a pic to show where it was mounted, ignore the ladder step, I added that later myself.  |
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mosquito13
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Post by mosquito13 on Feb 1, 2019 9:24:12 GMT -6
Never understood kickers. No one uses them in FLA. that I have seen . We troll and go offshore . Is it more a midwest mindset for the need of backup systems. Do remember them being on boats on lake Michigan growing up. You don't or ever have worked NASA by chance? I got a yamaha 9.9 long shaft in a trade , was planning on to selling it. Convince me why I need a kicker.
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Post by Juan on Feb 1, 2019 9:53:44 GMT -6
Convince me why I need a kicker. Kickers aren't used as much these days. When I was younger, we had a kicker on every boat we owned that had a single outboard and there were a few times I was glad we did. A kicker was a must if you went offshore and was out of radio range and no one in sight. If the big motor broke down you could always creep back in with the kicker. With today's cell phones, sat phones, Epribs, and more dependable outboards, a kicker isn't as important as they once were but I'd guess they could serve in an emergency or maybe for slow trolling. I'd put one on my boat if I went offshore more than a few times a year. |
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Post by 985crabs on Feb 1, 2019 11:21:52 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm thinking Sea Tow has made kickers far less relevant.
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Post by gnrphil on Feb 1, 2019 13:32:46 GMT -6
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oldfatguy
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Post by oldfatguy on Feb 1, 2019 16:11:40 GMT -6
I have a 220 CC with a merc 250 on it and we troll for walleye at 1.8 MPH. I have a bow mounted elec trolling motor but if I want to troll all day it's better to use a gas engine, the 250 wouldn't fair very well at idle all day and would still be running over 1.8 MPH. the kicker is also good for back up, lakes like erie and St Clair can go from flat as glass to very nasty 6 and 8 footers (or more) in a real short time, not good if your main engine doesn't start ( everything can break). I spent a lot of time on the ocean and only saw it more violent than lake erie one time
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Post by Simple Man on Feb 1, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -6
Yeah, I always thought kickers were for slow trolling. Never had a boat with one.
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oldfatguy
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Post by oldfatguy on Feb 1, 2019 18:14:49 GMT -6
funny thing, the swim platform with a ladder is what is on mine now
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Post by freezerfiller on Feb 1, 2019 20:58:24 GMT -6
Most of the ones I've seen are mounted to a small bracket that is mounted to the transom. I bought a trolling mode switch for my Zuke that goes up 50 rpms at a time. Can go any speed from 1.5-5 mph. I use it more for maximizing speed in no wake zones, but it is great for trolling.
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Post by Simple Man on Feb 9, 2019 9:40:28 GMT -6
Most of the ones I've seen are mounted to a small bracket that is mounted to the transom. I bought a trolling mode switch for my Zuke that goes up 50 rpms at a time. Can go any speed from 1.5-5 mph. I use it more for maximizing speed in no wake zones, but it is great for trolling. How low can it lower your idle rpms? Does that have any long term ill effects for the motor? Sounds a heap better than having that kicker hanging back there all the time. |
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Post by freezerfiller on Feb 12, 2019 11:49:57 GMT -6
It has a down/up button that can lower or raise rpms by approximately 50 rpms per click up to around 1250 rpms max. I don't think it goes below engine idle, but in gear I'm probably around 500 rpms.
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Post by Simple Man on Feb 17, 2019 21:50:12 GMT -6
It has a down/up button that can lower or raise rpms by approximately 50 rpms per click up to around 1250 rpms max. I don't think it goes below engine idle, but in gear I'm probably around 500 rpms. I gotcha. Go up from idle. I was wondering if they were dropping rpms below idle. That would be nice for offshore trolling or like you say no wake zones. Idle on my boat would be way to fast to troll for speckled trout or them walleyes up north though. I reckon that's why they use the kickers! |
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Post by freezerfiller on Feb 19, 2019 17:36:29 GMT -6
Idle on mine is really slow. I'd say 1.3 mph. I'll have to go back and look at my log to be sure though. I've been spending most of my boating time getting my son's boat dialed in lately.
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