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Post by Juan on Jul 10, 2017 17:49:21 GMT -6
Anyone else have a Yamaha 150 four stroke? If so, have you had any "balancer assembly" problems? Asking only because I've contacted a law firm and they're considering a class action law suit. Anyone who has experienced problems might consider contacting them at: Yamaha Class action or 888=987-1307 |
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Post by gtightline on Jul 11, 2017 6:31:42 GMT -6
Sorry to hear about the problems your having, I'm surprised with Yamaha..Hope you resolve this soon.
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Post by Juan on Jul 11, 2017 7:15:53 GMT -6
Hopefully, mine will be fixed in 3 or 4 weeks (if the power head is still good) The thing that ticked me off is that the balancer assembly that went bad on mine is known to fail at some point on all F150s built between 2004 and 2010. Hundreds, if not thousands built between 2004 and 2010 have failed, Yamaha knew it was a problem and made an improved assembly but never issued a recall or made any effort toward restitution for those who either had a catastrophic failure, changed or elected to remove the assembly before it failed. IMO they should.
I've owned several and have been a dedicated Yamaha fan for many years but if there's damage to the powerhead on mine, instead of replacing it, I'm looking at repowering with either an ETEC or Zuke. I think the Suzuki's have the best price tag and warranty going.
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Post by gtightline on Jul 11, 2017 8:35:38 GMT -6
I've noticed a lot of the new boats now come with the Suzuki motors, apparently they are having success with those outboards.
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Post by Juan on Jul 11, 2017 10:03:21 GMT -6
I've noticed a lot of the new boats now come with the Suzuki motors, apparently they are having success with those outboards. I think most of their popularity is because they're priced lower than most and they have a great warranty. I've never owned a Suzuki but have three friends who have them and two of the three swear by them.. The other had a lot of corrosion problems on two different motors so he complains about that but they did last years before he had the problems. I like their price, warranty and looks and I've already got permission from the Warden to buy a new 200 like freezer's if my Yamaha costs too much to repair it. |
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Post by freezerfiller on Jul 11, 2017 15:29:24 GMT -6
My reasons for going with the Zuke were 1. Quiet, really quiet. If it wasn't peeing you wouldn't know it was idling. 2 the price was much cheaper than the Yammy or the Merc. 3. The weight of the 4 cylinder was much less than the Honda 6. 4.The G2 still requires 2 stroke oil, expensive oil at that. That's a $.70/gallon excise tax on fuel. I couldn't deal with the crazy spark plug configuration that it required to work either. 5. I talked to tons of people who had Mercs Yamahas and Suzukis, and I determined that they all really liked their engines. I wanted the quiet so it was down to the newest Merc (also quiet at idle) and the Suzuki. $1,800 and an extra year of warranty talked me into the Suzuki. There was a corrosion water jacket plug issue in the early 2000's which they have eliminated. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm peeing on Yamaha's or other brands, I just wanted to offer why I went the way I did. I was really wanting to go Honda when I started my search, but I think the research I did was very good and I hope I made the right choice in the end. If I didn't I'll certainly let you know. BTW, Suzuki's cowlings don't hold up worth a damn against a wooden dock in 3' seas...
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Post by gtightline on Jul 11, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -6
When I'm ready to repower I will be looking at the Suzuki.I see a lot of the boat builders down here offer them on their boats. I would love to strap a 140hp to the transom on my 180 cc ..
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Post by Juan on Jul 11, 2017 17:26:11 GMT -6
All great reasons to go with a Zuke. Glad you did all that research. Just in case I have to spend a small fortune to repair my Yammie, I've been doing some research too and trying to compare prices when I can get them. I didn't think about the 2-stroke oil when checking on the ETECs. Good point. I don't want to have to buy another brand of expensive 2 stroke oil. The Optimax on the bass boat uses DFI oil and that crap ain't cheap.
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Post by freezerfiller on Jul 11, 2017 18:50:03 GMT -6
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Post by Juan on Jul 12, 2017 11:23:02 GMT -6
I'm still a Yamaha fan and until now I've never had any serious problems with any I've owned. Truthfully, I'd buy another one today if the price was right but I'll never buy another F150 since even the new revised balancer assemblies on them still have the composite gears messed with metal gears... IMO that's nothing more than a recipe for failure.
If Yamaha offered the same price for the same outboard, I'd buy it over any other brand but they don't and won't so if I repower I'll probably go with a Suzuki this time.
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Post by Juan on Jul 27, 2017 14:15:33 GMT -6
UPDATE: Well, the Yamaha had enough damage to it because of the bad balancer assembly that neither the shop or I felt comfortable with trying to remove all the debris and then put it back together. To do it right would take a new power head at a cost of close to $10k, so I took it to Shield's Marine in Saint Marks to have the Yamaha taken off and replaced with a new Suzuki. Hopefully I'll have it back in two or three weeks. There's never been more truth to the old saying "Break Out Another Thousand".
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Post by AHHHH-Spray on Jul 27, 2017 14:43:31 GMT -6
To do it right would take a new power head at a cost of close to $10k, so I took it to Shield's Marine in Saint Marks to have the Yamaha taken off and replaced with a new Suzuki. Hopefully I'll have it back in two or three weeks. There's never been more truth to the old saying "Break Out Another Thousand". Damn that sucks. Welcome to the the Suzuki family. I think you'll like the new motor. |
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Post by gnrphil on Jul 27, 2017 15:03:23 GMT -6
Sorry to hear that, I think you'll enjoy the Suzuki also. Did you stay with 150 or upgrade to a 175/200?
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Post by Juan on Jul 27, 2017 15:11:14 GMT -6
Sorry to hear that, I think you'll enjoy the Suzuki also. Did you stay with 150 or upgrade to a 175/200? I really wanted to go with a 200 but I was told that by law dealers aren't allowed (and won't) install anything more than the horsepower rating of the boat.. and since the 04 2100 is rated at 150 h.p. that's as big as I could get. Probably good I couldn't get the 200 any way. I'm sure my insurance company wouldn't have liked it either. |
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Post by gnrphil on Jul 27, 2017 15:49:03 GMT -6
I didn't know the SV2100 was only rated for a 150, I thought it would've been 200.
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Post by Juan on Jul 27, 2017 16:57:36 GMT -6
I didn't know the SV2100 was only rated for a 150, I thought it would've been 200. I'm not sure but I've heard the 2100s before and after the 2004 model year were rated for more than 150. Who knows, mine just might have the wrong Coast Guard sticker on it. I know it would handle 200 h.p. without issue but it runs at 40 + with a 150 and that's more than fast enough for me not to mention it was cheaper and should get a bit better gph.  Just checked the specs and they state RECOMMENDED HP 115 - 150 and MAX HP at 225 I know my CG sticker reads 150 and 9 people but don't know if that's recommended or max. Oh well, I'll be happy with the 150 if it runs at or better than the Yamaha 150 did. Plus I have BayStar hydraulic steering and I know it's rated at 150 so I would have had the extra expense of changing that to SeaStar with a 200. |
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Post by gnrphil on Jul 27, 2017 19:31:29 GMT -6
Well if it runs 40+ with a 150 I'd be happy with that too, I wonder when you'll crank the zuke while it's running, they're so quiet at idle it's unreal.
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Post by 985crabs on Jul 27, 2017 19:38:55 GMT -6
Damn Juan, that is really harsh. Sorry to hear of the F150's demise. Take it home and sell the parts.
Can't wait to hear about the Zuke. I have a friend in south FL who says all the cool kids are repose ring with them when they must. Especially the Law Enforcement, towing and professionals.
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Post by freezerfiller on Jul 27, 2017 21:45:10 GMT -6
Welcome to the club! Sorry to hear your old power wasn't an economical fix. You will love the fuel economy and the quieter ride.
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Post by Juan on Jul 28, 2017 6:00:45 GMT -6
Yep, it could have held up to a 225 and I had planned on putting a 200 on it but as I said, my Coast Guard sticker says 150 and when the dealers asked me about the boat's rated horsepower, I told them 150 and they told me that they couldn't put a higher hors power motor on it and they were required to stay at or below the boat's rated horsepower, so it's getting a new 150 and that's my fault but it's probably the best choice any way since the boat performs great with a 150 and I saved a bunch of money and the wife is happy. She keeps telling me that the boat is fast enough. I did a lot of research on the Suzukis and asked freezerfiller a lot of questions about his new Suzuki. (THANKS freezer notworthy ) There are several improvements I liked over the Yamahas... Larger displacement for better torque, almost twice the oil capacity for better lubrication, higher gear ratio allowing for a larger prop, self adjusting timing chain vs a timing belt on the Yammies just to name a few. The best price tag didn't hurt either.  |
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