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Post by gtightline on Oct 18, 2016 5:45:13 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out a way to mount the outriggers without having to give up my front rod holders, and at the same time be able to deploy them while by myself. I have several ideas in mind that I am thinking about. I noticed that the gunwale is nice and thick, I don't think I will need to use backing plates, also what size SS screws did you use. I have read that a # 10 SS sheet metal screw works well, is that what you used...Are you able to bring the poles to the vertical position, straight up?...Looks good.
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 18, 2016 9:41:20 GMT -6
I don't know what bases I'm going to receive but if it's the ones in the picture (which is on my order conformation they sent me) the ones in the red box could be mounted on the console wall. which ones do you have
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Post by korrupt3dazn on Oct 18, 2016 13:32:06 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out a way to mount the outriggers without having to give up my front rod holders, and at the same time be able to deploy them while by myself. I have several ideas in mind that I am thinking about. I noticed that the gunwale is nice and thick, I don't think I will need to use backing plates, also what size SS screws did you use. I have read that a # 10 SS sheet metal screw works well, is that what you used...Are you able to bring the poles to the vertical position, straight up?...Looks good. The holder is not as deep as the OEM rod holder but I test fitted my Penn Boat Rod in there and it seem to work.Fits in there pretty snug. That was a concern for me as well with losing a rod holder. As for the screws I just found some SS screws in my tool box. The Backing plate is on clearance as well for 8$ a pair so will probably just buy those. www.westmarine.com/buy/tigress--gunnel-side-mount-backing-plates--P005682455
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 19, 2016 14:55:33 GMT -6
Well as I was in town I went and picked up my poles ( other parts are not in yet) and they are both damaged, one is crushed at the base and the other the eyelets are bent . I was surprised they didn't come in a box.
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Post by Juan on Oct 19, 2016 17:03:04 GMT -6
Well as I was in town I went and picked up my poles ( other parts are not in yet) and they are both damaged, one is crushed at the base and the other the eyelets are bent . I was surprised they didn't come in a box. Mine came in a box and they still looked like they went through a meat grinder.. Actually, I haven't checked them closely but the poles don't appear to be damaged but they had a protective plastic cap on the end of each pole and both of those are broken and split wide open....and the poles came inside a flimsy clear vinyl case that was also torn and the snaps were broken. I'm starting to think that they were priced so low because West Marine and Tigress were cleaning out their damaged and obsolete inventory.
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 19, 2016 17:37:56 GMT -6
Mine were in the clear case only.
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Post by gtightline on Oct 19, 2016 19:07:28 GMT -6
That sucks! Mine came in a box and in good shape, my bases on the other hand had slight scratches in them. You have to look close, but they are there....This is exactly as advertised, "Economy" bottom of the line. This is the reason that I am apprehensive about drilling holes into the gunwales of my boat. I am still thinking of a way to install these without drilling. The reviews that I have read range from good to not so good. I have found combination Rod holders/outrigger holders on the internet that fit into the existing rod holder, so that no holes need to be cut into the boat. Some come with the outrigger poles built in and some come without, and the prices are ridiculously high. If I was a metal fabricator I could probably make a set myself. Here is what I'm talking about if you would like to take a look. www.meltontackle.com/products/rupp-marine-rod-holder-mount-outrigger-bases.htmlIf there is anybody out there that can fabricate a set of these, I would be willing to buy them, but not at the outrages prices that are shown in the link.... I am wondering if they could be made of PVC??? ...Any ideas?
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Post by korrupt3dazn on Oct 19, 2016 21:16:19 GMT -6
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Post by gtightline on Oct 19, 2016 21:46:49 GMT -6
korrupt3dazn, That is ingenious...I already have a set of Rod Riggers known as (Poor Mans Outriggers) that fit into my existing rod holders, so all I would have to purchase is a set of the www.ebay.com/itm/Rod-Holder-for-Rails1-1-4-to-2-Stainless-Tournament-Style-Clamp-on-Fishing-/331258794601?hash=item4d20901269:g:xeMAAOSwfZhXMuvs And see if I could fit them on the Rod Riggers that I already have... This is truly an idea just just might work. In the morning I will take some measurements and see if I can make this work.....Thanks again for the great idea....Man if this works, my problem is solved without cutting holes into my gunwales... Now why couldn't I think of that....Thanks buddy, I'll let you know if it works.
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Post by Juan on Oct 20, 2016 13:20:40 GMT -6
The mounts and rigging arrived today.. Looks good with no visible defects and I think the mounts are small enough I'll be able to mount them to the antenna plates on my T-top.
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 25, 2016 14:19:37 GMT -6
Got my KIT today, all looks good emthup
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Post by gnrphil on Oct 25, 2016 14:23:10 GMT -6
Juan, you mention in another thread about being worried about your T Top fabric tearing, cut the holes in the fabric with a soldering iron, this stop it tearing
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Post by Juan on Oct 25, 2016 15:35:00 GMT -6
Juan, you mention in another thread about being worried about your T Top fabric tearing, cut the holes in the fabric with a soldering iron, this stop it tearing Thanks, that might be the ticket but I'm still trying to decide if I want to mount them at all and if I do, if I should put them on top of the t-top or on the deck behind the rod lockers. I'm leaning toward the rod locker location since they will be flush mounted, within easy reach and the bottom half of the mount will be hidden where it will hang below the T-top if I mount them on the antenna plate. It will look better but I'll have to give up the outrigger height.
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Post by freezerfiller on Oct 25, 2016 15:52:04 GMT -6
Juan, you mention in another thread about being worried about your T Top fabric tearing, cut the holes in the fabric with a soldering iron, this stop it tearing Or cut with a blade or scissors and hit the edges with a torch or lighter will accomplish the same result.
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Post by gtightline on Oct 26, 2016 5:01:56 GMT -6
Juan, you mention in another thread about being worried about your T Top fabric tearing, cut the holes in the fabric with a soldering iron, this stop it tearing Thanks, that might be the ticket but I'm still trying to decide if I want to mount them at all and if I do, if I should put them on top of the t-top or on the deck behind the rod lockers. I'm leaning toward the rod locker location since they will be flush mounted, within easy reach and the bottom half of the mount will be hidden where it will hang below the T-top if I mount them on the antenna plate. It will look better but I'll have to give up the outrigger height. You will be giving up height, but gaining in spread width...I too am somewhat leery of cutting holes into the gunwales of my boat for a product that might not be that great....It was mentioned that I might be able to use a set of Rod Riggers along with rod holders clamped to the side of the Rod Riggers, that way I would not have to cut any holes. I can't find any clamp on style rod holders with the correct size holes, so that the outriggers pole holders fit correctly. The outrigger pole holders (the curved ones) that come in the Tigress mounting kit are too short and too skinny to fit snugly and all the way down into a regular rod holder....does that make any sense, that's the best I can describe it....Here is a link with a picture of what I am trying to describe that might work for me, without having to drill. www.ruppmarine.com/rod-holder-mount
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Post by Juan on Oct 26, 2016 7:30:33 GMT -6
does that make any sense, that's the best I can describe it....Here is a link with a picture of what I am trying to describe that might work for me, without having to drill. Makes perfect sense. I have two clamp on rod holders mounted to the rails and trying to fit the curved outrigger holders in them was the first thing I tried, but like you said, they're too small and too short. I didn't think about gaining spreader width. emthup
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Post by gtightline on Oct 26, 2016 20:24:25 GMT -6
10-4, personally I would prefer spread width over height. I think the further you can get your lines out away from the boat, off to the sides, the better, and the easier it would be to troll while by myself. In my case it would make it a breeze to troll four lines at once, especially while making turns, like when following weed lines. I wouldn't have to worry so much about crossed lines and in theory would increase the chances of a hook up....My thoughts are becoming clearer the more I think about it..It will take a good welder to attach the bases from the kit to my existing Rod Riggers, but I think it can be done. Now I just need to find someone who could do the job on the cheap....Right now I'm wishing I knew how to weld, and it would be a done deal. When I get it sorted out I will post pictures...One thing is for sure, I'm not cutting holes into the gunwales of my boat....Here is a picture of one of the Rod Riggers that go into the existing rod holder (Starboard)..all I need to do is weld the bases to the Rod Riggers and I'm good...I can run the outriggers poles right on them..
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Post by Juan on Oct 30, 2016 14:03:09 GMT -6
Today I outlined the outrigger base mount onto my deck where I had planned to cut and install them but at the last minute decided not to cut the holes into the deck. I thought I had solved the problem when I cut 3" off of a cheap rod holder that's strapped to the tower and then slipped a smaller diameter piece of PVC inside the rod holder.. The outrigger holder fit perfectly but I don't think the brace that holds the rod holder to the tower will hold up under the pressure of trolling so I give up. I probably won't ever use the thing any way.. so if anyone wants to pay the postage, they can get this unopened outrigger system for what I have in it.. %45.
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Post by gnrphil on Nov 30, 2016 16:12:56 GMT -6
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